Minnesota Family Council scrubs offensive comments about gays and lesbians
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 at 9:53 am
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The Minnesota Family Council, the lead proponent of a ballot initiative that would add a ban on same-sex marriage to the Minnesota Constitution, removed information from its website on Tuesday that said gays and lesbians engage in pedophilia and bestiality. The Family Council’s president Tom Prichard recently said that he hoped for a “respectful debate.” Opponents of the anti-gay marriage amendment seized on Prichard’s statements and the information on the website on Tuesday called on the Family Council to remove it.
“We are sorry to hear that the Minnesota Family Council is talking about pedophilia and bestiality when referring to our neighbors, friends, coworkers and family members. The Minnesota Family Council should remove this language from its website and its vocabulary,” said Minnesotans United for All Families spokesperson Donald McFarland in a statement. “The remarks on their website have no place in a statewide discussion about love, commitment and family. In Minnesota, we treat others as we would like to be treated.”
As the blog Good As You noted on Wednesday, the information on the Family Council’s website has disappeared.
Among the statements in the documents, dubbed a “legislative manual” by the Family Council, were assertions that gays and lesbians eat human excrement, that gays and lesbians are more likely to be pedophiles and engage in bestiality, and that domestic partner benefits are a recruiting tool.
The Minnesota Family Council did not return a request for comment on Monday.
The “legislative manual” was available as 32 pdf files that covered topics including welfare, taxes, marriage and pornography. Below are the three files on homosexuality:
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Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 9:59 am
Taking it off the website isn’t the same as repudiating it. Not by a long shot. I hope someone will post this “manual” of hatred where it is easily accessible so that the MFC can’t hide its ugly, shameful, skanky beliefs behind a facade of “civility”.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 10:02 am
Yet another Orwellian moment, the history is changed yet again.
Wait ’til Citizen Carl gets on to this.
Reprehensitive Zellers must have given them the cue.
Jeff Wilfahrt, Rosemount
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 10:04 am
The lies removed from the MFC’s web site will still be conveyed just more subtly and not before the press.
Praise Jebus, God hates the light of truth, Amen.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 10:15 am
I agree with Dog is my shepherd….removing these hurtful lies from the website will not make up for having posted this filth in the 1st place. I demand an apology!!! (not holding my breath)
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 11:09 am
How unbelievable is it that they are using the argument that same-sex domestic partner benefits are wrong because they are discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation (if it wouldn’t apply to cohabitating heterosexuals)?! But somehow denying people marriage rights ISN’T that kind of discrimination? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds…
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 11:37 am
The MN Family Council is a defacto committee of the MN Republican Party. Its sole purpose is to get likely Republican voters to the polls. It uses whatever tools it thinks will accomplish that goal. The ends justify the means for as far as it is concerned. It will continue to disseminate the false information contained in the pages it has deleted from its web site. It will just do it via third parties – most likely shadowy organizations from outside of Minnesota.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 12:04 pm
This is rich! The towering hypocrisy of Grand Dragon Prichard!
These documents appear to spell out the “intellectual” or “rational” foundation for MFC’s stance.
So, why did MFC take them down? Are they ashamed of the lies they contain? How could this be? Aren’t the views of Prichard et al. based on these alleged moral absolutes they like to talk about so much? Doesn’t the creator of the universe himself(/itself/herself) whisper in their ears the correct answers to all moral questions? Is Prichard ashamed of his views? Does he feel guilty? Presumably the opponents of same sex marriage believe they have the better arguments. If this is true, then why is Prichard stashing his policy papers out of sight like some dirty secret?
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 12:05 pm
If they’re THIS slow to react at this point, I look forward to taking them on the campaign!
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 12:12 pm
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
— Gandhi
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 12:20 pm
Again, we CANNOT let ourselves be surprised by all this. The h8rs are GOING TO LIE AND LIE AND LIE. They will tell ALL of the most depraved lies that their sick minds can imagine. But remember, the only things they can imagine are the things they imagine: they are PROJECTING. They always will. And everything that they accuse others of are things they do or dream of doing themselves.
So start recording who writes these stories (if you can gather individual names). Start looking for common themes. Because I assure you, if someone from the MFC keeps writing stories about bestiality, those same people will be the owners of VERY nervous pets. It’s THESE people who are sick, and they’re TELLING us this in their own way, and we need to recognize that and respond appropriately.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 12:22 pm
To late you A-holes….its ALREADY Public Record……..Your Lies and smears of LGBT Tax paying citizens and thier families are SET IN STONE…..
…M citizens DON’T let Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown define your state……with HATE! The ONLY thing this Ammendment will do is LINE THEIR POCKETS $$$ ..and IF this ammendment passes…it leaves your state BRUISED and On the WRONG side of History…you won’t stop people from marrying, they just wont do it in your state ie: LOSS of Revenue $$$ …and Fat Cow Gallagher and lard ass Brown will be Grinning like chesser Cats, as they drive off, Pockets Full $$$ laughing at MN in thier rear view mirrors……and WHAT will MN look like after all is said a done? A divided state, neighbors not speaking anymore…Hurt feelings never to heal…..and MN on the WRONG SIDE of History! VOTE NO!
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 1:06 pm
Yes, this is already a public record. Will the public–the greater public beyond those of us here–ever hear of it? When will the StarTribune or Pioneer Press weigh in with their coverage of this story?
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 1:34 pm
The Republican strategy is clearly for them to look as benign as possible. They want to look like reasonable people. The stuff the MFC took down from its web site was useful to them in previous campaigns. They’re trying to look more sane this time around – reasonable people with a reasonable amendment to protect children. They’ll make sure enough crazy stuff gets out there to scare and enrage the people whose votes they want. They’ll just make sure the crazy stuff can be attributed to outsiders – preferably ones who can’t be traced.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 2:11 pm
Praise Jeebus, God STILL loves tort actions. I havent even begun to expose their Scott Lively-isms.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 2:46 pm
…..as to the argument that gay marriage will destroy “traditional marriage”, the latest national divorce statistics show otherwise. Mass and Iowa, 2 states which permit gay marriage have the nation’s lowest divorce rates; Nevada and Arkansas, both of which ban gay marriage have the highest divorce rates!
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 2:58 pm
Wendy- Go get em.
Praise Jebus, God hates his PR firm, Amen.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 3:46 pm
A resource that should be shared by everyone, in every newspaper in the state, repeatedly!!!
Being gay is not a “condition”. It is a human trait no more changeable than race, hair color, eye color, etc. You may have been told, persuaded and now believe otherwise. However, those professionals who study such matters disagree vehemently with your beliefs.
You asked about science. Here are some resources.
These professional bodies unanimously state:
1. Homosexuality is an normal, naturally occurring trait… See More
2. “Reparative therapy” or “conversion therapy” does not work and is harmful to those subjected to it.
AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION
Sexual orientation and homosexuality
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
Homosexuality: Nature or Nurture
Ryan D. Johnson April 30, 2003
http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html
APA Officially Rejects Reorientation Treatment for Homosexuals — Overwhelming research from the past hundred years rejected due to “serious design flaws.”
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/aug/09080608.html
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AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION
POSITION STATEMENT Homosexuality and Civil Rights
Approved by the Board of Trustees, December 1973
Approved by the Assembly, 1973
POSITION STATEMENT Therapies Focused on Attempts to Change Sexual Orientation (Reparative or Conversion Therapies)
Approved by the Board of Trustees, March 2000
Approved by the Assembly, May 2000
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AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
AMA Policy Regarding Sexual Orientation
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AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS
Policy Statement: Homosexuality and Adolescence (RE9332)
http://web.archive.org/web/20031212181440/http://www.aap.org/policy/05072.html
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NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Issues
http://www.socialworkers.org/resources/abstracts/abstracts/lesbian.asp
Position Statement: “Reparative” and “Conversion” Therapies for Lesbians and Gay Men
http://www.socialworkers.org/diversity/lgb/reparative.asp?print=1
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UNITED PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS REJECT “REPARATIVE THERAPY” also called “CONVERSION THERAPY”
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_expr.htm
The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association formed the “Just the Facts Coalition.” They developed and endorsed “Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation & Youth: A Primer for Principals, Educators and School Personnel” in 1999.
The primer says, in part:
“The most important fact about ‘reparative therapy,’ also sometimes known as ‘conversion’ therapy, is that it is based on an understanding of homosexuality that has been rejected by all the major health and mental health professions. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 477,000 health and mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus there is no need for a ‘cure.’
“…health and mental health professional organizations do not support efforts to change young people’s sexual orientation through ‘reparative therapy’ and have raised serious concerns about its potential to do harm.”
Again, I hope you will examine and consider this evidence with an open mind.
Quick Facts About Homosexuality
by C. Ann Shepherd
Sexual orientation can not be caught or taught.
“Family fears of catching homosexuality, or of being recruited at school
or elsewhere are utterly without scientific foundation.”
~ Dr. Jack Weinberg, President American Psychiatric Association,
October 6, 1977.
Sexual orientation is not a choice.
Sexual orientation is deep-seated and not something one chooses to be
or not to be.
~ Dr. Alan P. Bell, senior author of “Sexual Preference”, Bell, Weinberg
& Hammersmith, Indiana University Press, 1981.
Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early
in the life cycle, possibly even before birth.
~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.
It is believed that there are several factors which determine sexual orientation.
Sexual orientation is likely to be the result of several different factors,
including genetic, hormonal, and environmental. None of these factors
alone are responsible for determining sexual orientation. Psychological
and social influences alone cannot cause homosexuality.
~Tineke Bodde’, “Why is My Child Gay? ” Federation of Parents and Friends
of Lesbians and Gays, Inc., 1988.
“There is evidence that parents have very little influence on the outcome
of their children’s sexual orientation under normal upbringing conditions.”
~June Machover Reinisch, Ph.D. (Response from brochure) “Why is My
Child Gay?” Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays,
Inc., 1988.
Gays & lesbians discover their sexual orientation. They are not recruited or brainwashed into the “gay lifestyle”.
Gay and lesbian children are often aware of being different at a very early
age. They generally become aware of their sexual orientation during
adolescence or early adulthood.
~ R.R. Troiden, “The Formation of Homosexual Identities”, The Journal
of Homosexuality, 17, 43-73.
Homosexuality is not a mental or emotional disorder.
The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither
mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of
our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study
documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of
judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness
all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as
heterosexuals.
~ The American Psychiatric Association and The American Psychological
Association, July 1994
Efforts to change sexual orientation are ineffective and can be harmful.
Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are
nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments.
~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.
No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any therapies
that attempt to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals.
~ John C. Gonsiorek and James D. Weinrich, eds., Homosexuality:
Research Implications for Public Policy, Newbury Park, Calf.: Sage, 1991.
All attempts fail when gay people try to become heterosexual.
~D. C. Haldeman, “The Practice and Ethics of Sexual Orientation Conversion
Therapy”, Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, p.221-227, 1994.
“Groups who try to change the sexual orientation of people through so-called
conversion therapy are misguided and run the risk of causing a great
deal of psychological harm to those they say they are trying to help.”
~Dr. Raymond Fowler, American Psychological Association Executive Director
Clinical experience suggests that any person who seeks conversion therapy
may be doing so because of social bias that has resulted in internalized
homophobia, and that gay men and lesbians who have accepted their sexual
orientation positively are better adjusted than those who have not done so.
~American Psychiatric Association
The incidence of homosexuality is constant regardless of new laws or social attitudes.
It [homosexuality] is found in about ten percent of the population, a figure
which is surprisingly constant across cultures, irrespective of the different
moral values and standards of a particular culture.
Contrary to what some imply, the incidence of homosexuality in a population
does not appear to change with new moral codes or social mores.
~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.
Gay and lesbian youth are at greater risk of committing suicide.
Gay and lesbian youth are two to three times more likely to attempt suicide
than their heterosexual peers.
Gay and lesbian teens account for thirty percent of all completed suicides
among adolescents.
~U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. “Report of the Secretary’s
Task Force on Youth Suicide”, Washington D.C., 1989.
Gay and lesbian people are just as capable of being good parents as are heterosexual parents.
Children who are raised in gay or lesbian homes are no different in any
aspects of psychological, social, or sexual development from children in
heterosexual families.
~C.J. Patterson, “Children of Lesbian and Gay Parents”, Child Development,
63, 1025-1042.
Thirty-five different studies have shown that children of gay and lesbian
parents are no more likely to become homosexuals than children of
heterosexuals, and are just as well adjusted.
~Jane Gross, “New Challenge of Youth: Growing up in Gay Homes”,
New York Times, February 11, 1991.
Gay men and lesbian women are rarely involved in child sexual abuse.
In the U.S. ninety percent of all sexual child abuse is committed by
heterosexual men. The molesters are almost always family members,
close family friends or the mother’s boyfriend.
~P.J. Falk “Lesbian Mothers: Psychological Assumptions in Family Law”,
American Psychologist, 44, 941-949, 1989.
~Mary Koss, et al. “No Safe Haven: Male Violence Against Women At Home,
At Work, And in the Community”,
American Psychological Association, 1994.
Gay people are not obsessed with sex.
Gay men and lesbian women share the same amount of interest in sexual
activity as heterosexual persons, neither more nor less.
~Alan P. Bell and Martin S. Weinberg, for the Institute for Sexual Research,
“Homosexuality: A Study in Human Diversity”, Simon and Schuster, 1978.
There is no single Gay Lifestyle.
The lives of gay men and lesbian women are just as varied as the lives of
heterosexuals.
~Linda D. Garnets and Douglas C. Kimmel, “Psychological Perspectives on
Lesbian and Gay Male Experiences”, Columbia University Press, 1995.
©1996-1998 C. Ann Shepherd
AND if thats not enough, reinforcement from MOTHER NATURE and the animal kingdom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d68_vlLD60Y
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 6:45 pm
Another great post from Wendy.
The anti-gay bigots are entitled to their opinions–as misinformed, outdated, irrational, falsified and motivated by hatred as they often are. But they are not entitled to their own facts.
Comment posted May 25, 2011 @ 6:55 pm
Minnesota needs to dump ALL of the extremism including the MFC who has now been proven to push scientifically peer-repudiated KNOWN FALSEHOODS to purposefully misinform and demonize Minnesotans to further their own political agendas. This ISN’T Uganda folks. My bet is that Minnesotans don’t take kindly to being manipulated into turning on their fellow Minnesotans.
http://minnesotansunitedforallfamilies.com/
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Comment posted May 26, 2011 @ 8:21 pm
What is anti-gay pressure group MFC so ashamed of that they had to delete the documents in such a hurry? Sounds like a guilty conscience! Is this the kind of garbage that our children will be indoctrinated with in schools if the anti-gay amendment passes? What is the real agenda that is being pushed here by these anti-gay advocacy groups and why are they putting other Americans’ rights up to a popularity vote? That’s unamerican and unchristian!
Comment posted May 28, 2011 @ 10:25 am
They can run, but they can’t HIDE their legacy of hate, lies, fear and ugly bigotry.
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