Bradlee Dean takes credit for passing anti-gay marriage amendment

When these anti-gay people are as bad as Bradlee Dean, I freely compare their attitudes to Nazism and to forced rape. There is no excuse for this anymore. It is hate speech, pure and simple. Dean is also lying, as the article evidences, which makes his hate speech all the more chilling. I congratulate and appreciate the pro-gay forces who fight these monsters tirelessly. The anti-gay have turned the beauty of religion and god into a hateful satanism which boggles the mind and smacks of forced theocracy and mind control.

So this puts Koch, Zellers, The Archdiocese of St. Paul and Dean together in producing GOP public policy. I’ll be e-mailing the legislators and Church for comment. At some point they have to question a movement that attracts hate groups and extremists.

Praise Jebus, God hates His cohorts, Amen.

Carl: while I agree the amendment is wrong and this guy is a nutcase (to put it politely), it’s hard to come up with examples of movements that *don’t* have their extremists.

Every heterosexual has a natural aversion to homosexuality. Nothing hateful about it. It’s perfectly natural.

Dumbest comment ever, HG. I’m straight and have no “aversion” to homosexuality. I’m perfectly fine, as are plenty of other straight folks who are secure in their sexuality, with the way gays and lesbians express their affection for each other. How quaint, however, that you think Dean’s vitriol against LGBT people is merely about his own “aversion” to homosexuality. Also, you seem to assume he’s straight. Let’s not jump to conclusions…

S.Ip,

That was hilarious.

HG,

Then in your reasoning, it is perfectly natural for gays and lesbians to have an “aversion” to heterosexuals? It is after all, perfectly natural.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/what-are-little-boys-made-of1

Apparently, being a depressed, suicidal heterosexual man is more acceptable to people like Bradlee Dean than being a happy, emotionally empowered gay man or transsexual woman.

What a sick little person – how many have paid the price for their hubris of trying to unwrite what the universe has written?

huh

i’m posting commens too quickly, i’m being told. too bad when i took the time to write a meaningful comment in response to the story, it didn’t post. oh well.

Xochial,

Not at all.

In civilized society we don’t act on our natural aversions HG. We all have natural prejudice to be more comfortable with those most like us, but if we act on that negatively it becomes hate. Your feelings are your feelings. What you do with your feelings can be good or disgusting. Just because I do not understand homosexual attraction, and maybe it makes me even feel a little uneasy, that is my problem, not theirs.

Find out which companies are advertising on his little hate radio show and then BOYCOTT!! There’s a reason why the neo-nazi religious practitioners don’t like boycotts: BECAUSE THEY WORK!!! Can anyone on this site tell us which companies(small or large)gave or currently give donation money to the minnesota republican party? Enquiring minds need to know!!

HG, I’ve been straight all my life and that’s news to me. If you have an “aversion’” please keep it to yourself.

Concerned,

We do act on our natural aversions, and negativity isn’t always hate. Other than that, well put.

HG: “Every heterosexual has a natural aversion to homosexuality.” Much the same way right-handed people have a natural aversion to left-handed people, or white people may have an aversion to black people. But to fail to understand WHY people are gay, or left-handed or black and to use the law against them, that’s just ignorance.

Hyhybt: “it’s hard to come up with examples of movements that *don’t* have their extremists.” It’s a bit of false equivalence though, especially when people like Bachmann and others in the GOP elevate their extremists to the forefront and center.

Hyhybt – It may be true that all movements have their extremists… but, how many extremists have such close ties to legislators? How many of these extremists in other movements have been invited to speak on the House Floor? Sure, all movements have their nutcases. But this batch of nutcases are connected to legislators that are making law. That is a terrifying combination… AND, given the references to imprisonment and execution of gays, there is no avoiding comparisons between these nutcases and Hitler. People may not want to “go there”… but go there we must.

These people are beyond crazy. They are crazy and connected, a very dangerous combination.

Joe,

Your inferenence that homosexuals, left handed people, and blacks have a “natural aversion” in agreement, is incorrect.

Understanding “Why people are gay” doesn’t remove that natural aversion.

@Hyhybt- I agree, fringe elements exist in any cause. But such movements don’t usually give the extremists time on our House floor. And my point is that the Archdiocese of St. Paul and the Catholic Bishops of Minnesota (like any other organization claiming moral authority) should pause to reflect when their words are mirrored by hate groups. That being said, your caveat is well taken. Thanks.

Carl,

Please identify the fringe elements within your cause.

All you need to understand HG is that these are law-abiding and tax-paying Minnesotans, and their Constitutional reponsibilities and protections are being put up to mob rule, and a VERY dangerous precident. Their sexuality and your comprehension, “aversion” or various other itchy-scratchy’s on the subject are irrelevant.

You cannot be a fiscal conservative and vote FOR this amendment. It will cost and waste MILLIONS of Minnesotan tax dollars just to reinforce to the extremists that this action and those like it repeatedly violate the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution. I have a “natural aversion” to paying for other peoples stupidity and bigotry.

HG,

Please do your own work.

Praise Jebus, God hates cheaters, Amen.

Wendy,

Our democratic process is hardly mob rule. Currently, homosexual activists are pushing to put marriage ammendments on state ballots that would open the door for gay marriage. Apparently, they do not share your concern.

Voting on the Civil Rights of minorities is exactly mob rule, and why it will cost a fortune, and ultimately fail. Our Constitution is an ‘all for one, one for all. That, is democratic process.

Wendy,

I see. So only when the democratic process threatens what you perceive to be a minority’s civil right is that process “mob rule”. Surely you see the error in making such an argument?

btw….It’s not just gay folks against this unconstitutional action. Here’s some help fer ya…. If you’d be opposed to people voting away your rights of citizenship, then don’t vote away other peoples. One day it could be you.

Protect democracy. Vote NO.

“Every heterosexual has a natural aversion to homosexuality.”—Not quite true, and not particularly meaningful even if it were. Remember: to children, *all* sex is gross. Even just kissing is icky. That changes in adolescence, where whatever you’re interested moves over to the “appealing” column… but everything else often stays filed under “gross.”

(And yes, I know that in this case the nutcases are in and close to positions of power. I was just pointing out that it’s not their *existence* that shows that whole side of things is wrong.)

HG: There’s a *possibility* there might be an attempt in California to undo Prop 8. That’s the only one, and it’s not looking all that likely to get beyond the idea stage, at least for this next election. So, very little push, and definitely not plural. And it has nothing to do with “mob rule.” It’s simply the only way (if the courts fail) to UNdo a wrong which was done by that same method.

“Currently, homosexual activists are pushing to put marriage ammendments on state ballots that would open the door for gay marriage. Apparently, they do not share your concern.”

HG, as I mentioned in a different post, there are no constitutional amendments being proposed that would make gay marriage legal. The only thing the amendments do is put a ban on gay marriage into the state constitution. Gay marriage would still be illegal.

Never has any “homosexual activist” in any state pushed for a constitutional amendment to legalize gay marriage. To say otherwise is false.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
— B. Russell

Thanks Andy.

Praise Jebus, God hates fact checkers, Amen.

Phone rang today, fortunately we have caller ID now. The LED read “JC Heaven”.

Hmmm I thought, better take this one.

Jeff: Hello

Voice: Mr. Wilfahrt, this is Jesus calling from heaven.

Jeff: Yeah right.

Voice: No really it’s me. Thought I’d call because Michelle Bachman’s line was busy. Great thing having clairvoyance, she was schmoozing up a job creator who decided to use his money for politics instead of hiring someone.

Jeff: No crap?

Voice: Would I lie to you?

Jeff: I suppose not, you weren’t that way. Hey, what do you think of the Bradlee Dean stuff?

Voice: Oh ya, he’s a hoot isn’t he?

Jeff: No really, what do you think?

Voice: Let me send you email response.

Jeff: I haven’t given you my email address.

Voice: No problem, I got it from the NSA.

Jeff: But what about your opinion?

Voice: The email will explain it all. Gotta’ run, Michelle is off the line now.

Jeff: Well okay, catch ya’ man.

Click

The email just arrived.

Mr. Wilfahrt,

Dean is a just one of my dad’s jokes, like the fossils he put in the ground. The world really is just 6000 years old.

JC

Wendy, I think you use “mob rule” in a reasonable way. This isn’t a Constitutional Law exam. And sometimes the mob oppresses with a ballot box rather than pitchforks and torches.

Praise Jebus, God hates civil rights, Amen.

Andy,

Hard to believe a proficient writer like yourself could mischaracterize my comment that current efforts by homosexual activists intend to “open the door to gay marriage”. Of course a gay marriage amendement (thanks GP) in the affirmative isn’t being pushed. It would fail miserably and bring every republican and conservative democrat out of the woodwork on election day — can’t have that now can we. Nevertheless, the push for the ammendments I mentioned exists and the intention to open the door to gay mariage, undeniable. Other than splitting hairs, I’m not sure your point is relevant.

Hyhybt,

You’re argument is with Wendy. She is the one arguing “mob rule”.

HG, it’s relevant because what you are saying is incorrect. Voters are not voting for or against gay marriage, they are voting against gay marriage. Saying anything to the contrary is incorrect. You might feel that I’m splitting hairs but there is a big difference between saying homosexual activists are pushing amendments to legalize gay marriage and what is actually happening — social conservatives pushing amendment to ban gay marriage in the state constitution when it is already illegal statutorily.

If you want to talk about pushes to legalize gay marriage — fine, talk about those. I’m just pointing out that you either misunderstood or mischaracterized what is actually occurring.

And that’s all I have to say on the matter.

Again, I never said they are trying to legalize gay marriage. Those are your words Andy.

“HG, it’s relevant because what you are saying is incorrect. Voters are not voting for or against gay marriage, they are voting against gay marriage.”

????

Your words, HG: “Currently, homosexual activists are pushing to put marriage ammendments on state ballots that would open the door for gay marriage.”

I think you are calling yourself a liar, which is quite a feat!

Andy,

Read your comments again. Clearly we’re talking past each other. I never intended to suggest that what is going on in Minn. is a vote “for or against” gay marriage. It is a refferendum on gay marriage. The amendment wouldn’t even be on the ballot were it not for gay marriage being pushed as hard as it is.

Andy,

Do you acknowledge that homosexual activists are trying to open the door to gay marriage through ballot initiatives?

LOL. No, I don’t acknowledge it. When I see a ballot initiative that would open the door to gay marriage, I will. Legalizing gay marriage has never been put to the voters that I can recall. If you have an example, by all means enlighten me.

HG,

You write there “is a refferendum (sic) on gay marriage” but claim you aren’t suggesting it is “for or against” gay marriage? In your fifth post you called some readers dim. HG I don’t think you want a debate but to sow tension and confusion. Good luck.

Praise Jebus, God hates the Truth, Amen.

Andy,

How would you explain the last paragraph in the following link:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.preparetoprevail.com/pdfs/Prepare_To_Prevail_FINAL.pdf

HG- Gotcha, Thanks for clarifying.

Carl, you’re welcome.

[...] Rev. Takes Credit for Marriage Ban The Minnesota Independentpoints out that Democrats had already started referring to “the Bradlee Dean amendment” when [...]

Does anyone posting on this site have a list of the Minnesota businesses that have contributed or are still contributing to the MN GOP? If so then could you please post that list please. Thanks.

HG, I read the last paragraph of the “Prepare to Prevail” document. It merely outlines a political strategy which is not the same as having a ballot initiative that voters will actually participate in. Whether that strategy is still being pursued today I don’t know, but it is nice to know that you are having fits of discomfiture that we who believe in the American ideal of full equality under the law are pushing back against the likes of you who have caused so much trouble for way too long.

Lane,

If you read the paragraph then you read both references to winning a statewide ballot measure at the polls.

I’m guessing the tool Dean got a publicist after all eh???

Wendy,

Could be. Notice how, other than appeals to tradition, HG avoids making statements that require support. Instead he makes manipulative, provocative statements designed to draw the reader into making comments that he can then critique, undoubtably with pseudoscience, appeals to tradition and biblical references. He knows his weakness and avoids revealing too much. I, on the other hand, am tired of addressing the same lame arguments.

Praise Jebus, God hates honesty, Amen/

Yes, yes, Standard tactics for paid hacks. I mean, even the Holy Ghost can’t resurect Deans and MFC’s credibility now. LOL

Carl is not the only one who is tired of the same ol’ blather …

I am proud of my mother who just turned 69. She attended her first gay event the other day by herself, spending THREE hours there enjoying herself and good food while meeting new people. Now she plans to attend some PFLAG meetings as well as to participate in the July 29 equality event in St. Cloud. Hopefully my family will start talking about “it” …

So chins up! We’ve come a long ways, and still have a long ways to go, but WE CAN DO IT!

CHECK THIS OUT AND SHARE IT!!!!
http://lezgetreal.com/2011/06/bradlee-deans-moral-obligation-to-execute-gays-in-the-name-of-jesus/

Bang your head for Jesus Duuuuude!! Where is my anti-psychotic ???

Back on topic. It is interesting that BD takes credit for legislation introduced by people who claimed ignorance of his religio-political views. Someone is lying, BD, Koch or Zellers. Whichever is the case it’s not what Jesus would do.

Praise Jebus, God hates mysterious ways, Amen.

Lane,

Great news! One is never too old to change.

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Evolutionisfact,

Check these links for info on financial donations to candidates:

http://www.opensecrets.org/states/cands.php?cycle=2010&state=MN
http://www.cfbreport.state.mn.us/dyncfb/cfbsearch1.php

Thanks Eric.

Who will Bradlee be able to marry after the vote? And will he and Michelle be banned from the media any time soon? Is this a matter for the EPA? What exactly constitutes smog? My sense of post modernist irony is being tested here, and that’s not easy. What is a troglodyte? Can they marry in Minnesota? How about that Weiner guy. Is Breitbart running for president? Is Taliban a new cigarette? Can we get any effing dumber? Just asking, thank you.

“Standard tactics for paid hacks.”—Wait, you mean people get PAID to post comments on online news articles!? How do I get in on this? I’ve been doing it free for years!

@Hyhybt, Yes, and they are apparently hiring.

http://www.paidforumposting.com/
http://www.forumbooster.net/what_forum_boost.php
http://tycoontalk.freelancer.com/freelance-jobs-help-wanted/73028-wanted-paid-forum-posters.html
http://www.deepcapture.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=67

Unfortunately these posters are paid not to debate or inform but distract, disrupt, discourage and misinform.

Praise Jebus, God hates the Light, Amen.

MnIndy, I am NOT interested in what the paid hacks have to say. Could you look into this? Solutions include requiring posters to indicate if paid hack (and by whom) or not with this information displayed in comment thread as well as installing a paid poster filter to automatically delete such comments with the paid poster list regularly updated.

We’re witnessing the last gasp of a dying group of haters. Bradlee Dean is repulsive. Ick!

Darn. I don’t think I could do that; I strive to post the truth (as best I can) or nothing.

HG

I hold no aversion towards same sex intercourse. you want to get it down to the nitty gritty, to try and get the public to respond to you by trying to be “shocking”. Such as Bradlee tries to do when he uses the word Sodomy over and over again. Sodomy is oral and anal sex. I would like to know if a)is Bradlee a virgin? and b)has he ever had a blow job before? if he answers these two questions the way I think he would???? :)

Do I prefer a man? Yes! I am not Gay though!

Sexuality is not black and white, there is a spectrum. a rainbow of colors if I can steal a little from the Gay society.

I do not follow your religious laws. they hold no powers over me. just recently 70 more pastors have come out to stating their support to preform ceremonies for same sex marriages. Not all religions agree with you! Not to mention that the ceremony is just a ritual. you are not married unless the state says you are. God doesn’t marry you. the legal documents do.

I guess I’m late coming to this conversation, but oh well.

Just for the record, and to be honest and transparent, I am a conservative christian. I do believe that God created men and women to be together, in marriage, and that He looks at homosexuality, as sin.

HOWEVER, that being said, I must also state that the above is MY belief. If my understanding of God, and the bible, are correct then anyone who sins must answer to God, and not to me. I am responsible to love the people around me, to let them know why I believe the way I do, if they want to know. If they don’t care, that’s okay, I still love them. If they disagree, that’s also ok. I still love them. I am to let them live the way they choose.

The U.S. constitution is quite clear that the government is not to have authority to establish any religion, or to take away one’s right to exercise his/her’s (with some very obvious exceptions, to keep societal peace). Therefore, I do not believe the state should have any say to who can marry who. In the same way, I do not believe the government had any right to make Utah abolish polygamy. As long as no one’s rights are being abused, then the state should not step in, period.

Yes, there are beliefs that Bradlee Dean and I share. However, I think he has a real hang up with regards to sexuality and patriotism. He can be very abrasive (and sometimes abusive). And he seems to believe that being christian means “taking America back to God” and legislate morality. That is not biblical. He is operating under false premises, and I do not know where he gets it. Maybe he thinks he is doing right, but he is doing so much more harm to those around him than he realizes.

I just wanted to share this with all of you to show that even though people have differing beliefs, we can still live peacefull together in this country. THAT is what the Bill of Rights is all about.

@Anthony … Thank you for being able to Accept all even if you do not Support all For yourself personally. For that is why and how you and I can live together in peace and equality.