Radio host with ties to Bachmann, Pawlenty says Nazi Party formed in a gay bar

Leave it to a Fascist to try to explain the history of Nazi Germany.. (The pot and the kettle are arguing who is blacker).. What’s are next history lesson Bryan Fischer ?? Did Tinki Winki whiper into Bush’s ear and tell him to invade Iraq??

I must have led a very sheltered life to grow up without realizing that so much hate still permeated this country.

Separation of church and state is the only path to liberty.

[...] But it’s not.  Quoth the crazy person: They say that I make the contention that gays caused the Holocaust. This is wrong. I have been very clear in my writings and everything I’ve said that the Nazi Party is responsible for the Holocaust. [...]

Goodwin’s Law (otherwise known as “reductio ad Hitlerum”) states that eventually in every discussion, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%). The corollary is that the first party to use the Hitler or Nazi reference loses the argument. Congratulations Bryan Fischer… you lose!

Since the right has been using Nazi comparisons non-stop since Obama was elected, I feel free to identify 2 items from “The 14 Characteristics of Fascism” that appear to apply to the AFA & Perry’s event.

*Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

*Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association told listeners of his radio show on Thursday that the Nazi Party in Germany was formed in a Munich gay bar by “homosexual thugs.”

And he is quite right.

Kevin E. Abrams:
Historian Frank Rector records that the German Workers Party-the forerunner to Hitler’s Nazi Party-”was founded at a gay bar in Munich, called the Bratworstglockl.”(4) Jonathan Katz, a gay Holocaust historian, writes, “most, if not all, of its founding members were either homosexuals or bisexuals.” Katz writes that “the founders of the party were also founders of the `Bund fur Menschenrecht’ (The Society for Human Rights), the largest homosexual rights organization in Germany at the time.”(5) The major distinction between Hirschfeld’s Institute and the `Bund’ was that Hirschfeld’s following was largely made up of effeminate, passive antipedophile
adherents, while the Bund was comprised of butch or masculo-homosexuals who
were pro-pedophile.

Homosexuals are worse than the Soviets for rewriting history…

Curious that the Brown Shirts would then gas the gays later in the camps… Fischer didn’t seem to take the story to its endpoint. But then that would undercut his argument, wouldn’t it. I wonder if Fischer has camp guards in his family tree?

Jeff Wilfahrt, Rosemount, MN

I don’t if the silver faux is right but I know the Nazis used Christian rhetoric to jail and murder millions including GLBTs then justified said atrocities with half baked but oddly accepted propaganda. Sound familiar?

Praise Jebus, God hates a paper trail, Amen.

Actually the Sturmabteilung (the SA; the brownshirts) became largely irrelevant after the Night of the Long Knives in 1934, having been superseded by the Schutzstaffel (the SS) which was responsible for many of the crimes against humanity.

Ernst Röhm, a co-founder of the SA and a rival of Hitler, was executed along with at least 85 others, most of whom were brownshirts, on Hitler’s orders on that Night of the Long Knives. Röhm and certain other SA leaders were more or less openly homosexual, but my understanding of that complex history is that they were driven by politics rather than by any “homosexual agenda.”

Be wary of those who twist and distort history to suit their agendas.

This guy is, of course, a major idiot. Like all lies and distortions of the truth, there is a tiny kernel of truth to this assertion. Ernst Röhm, the head of the SA, was a well-known homosexual. The Munich Hofbrauhaus, where the SA’s first public meeting was held, on the other hand, was not a gay bar and is not a gay bar. Furthermore, Röhm was not the head of the SA when this meeting occurred. There were two other heads of the SA prior to Röhm.

Röhm, too, was a very scary person, probably scarier than Hitler, which is likely why Hitler had him assassinated shortly after Hitler became chancellor.

Thanks Lane!

I think the classic source here is The Pink Triangle by Richard Plant, which used to be on the Internet when the Internet was free. Not to be confused with The Pink Swastika, which is a hate document that rips off the former.

“LimaBN”: Our comment policy requests that you use one username per email/IP adddress. Your comment here is in violation of that policy, so I’ve deleted it.

Alessandra quotes Kevin E. Abrams, a co-author of “The Pink Swastika” and a known, discredited revisionist of history.

http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/04/kevin-abrams-the-other-side-of-the-pink-swastika/

Additionally, political parties come, go, merge, evolve and even get co-opted. For example, it is well known Michele Bachmann got her start in politics when she and her followers took over a sparsely attended precinct meeting in Stillwater … and her brand of politics certainly is different from what passed for Republican views back then.

And Tom Brock, had Bryan Fischer on his program on KKMS last Saturday. Brock is the paster who got busted by Lavender last summer going to the Catholic group “Courage” that deals with gay men who don’t want to be gay, but settle for joyless celebacy. Brock admits to “same sex attaction” but won’t call himself gay. He took himself off his program for 6 months. When he returned in February, Brock showed no indication he had learned a thing during his hiatus. He still quotes Cameron and has no shame in having wackos like Fischer on his program.

It’s profoundly easy to bleat the same revisionist history of Lively and Abrams, and that of the leatherman-obsessed Peter LaBarbara who can’t seem to bend over far enough for Lively and the likes. All certified hate-groups btw.

“In the SS, today, we still have about one case of homosexuality a month. In a whole
year, about eight to ten cases occur in the entire SS. I have now decided upon the
following: In each case, these people will naturally be publicly degraded, expelled, and handed over to the courts. Following completion of the punishment imposed by the courts, they will be sent, by my order, to a concentration camp, and they will be shot in the concentration camp, while attempting to escape.”
-Heinrich Himmler, 18 February 1937

The Other Side of the Pink Triangle: Still a Pink Triangle
Christine L. Mueller
October 24, 1994

http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/theothersideofthepink.pdf