SEIU pays for anti-GOP shutdown ad, launches video

Rather than focus on effects of the shutdown, the site should be a reminder of why there is a shutdown.

The GOP shut down the state because they think having a majority (109) means the other members (91) and the governor must sit down, shut up, and not represent the people who voted for them. In other words they either do not understand how government works, do not care, or both.

Compare Dayton’s offers to the GOP’s shuffling of spreadsheet items.
Mention the GOP thinks delayed payments to schools are “new revenue”. (ghost of Pawlenty)
Ask if the GOP really thought bringing abortion and voter ID policy into the BUDGET negotiations would bring progress. …or would ensure there would be no deal.

Funny how those on the left think. This shutdown is the result of two sides disagreeing. There are two parties responsible for this shutdown. Dayton is one of them.

Would it kill you just to be honest?

@HG,

This from the Professional Ignorant?

Praise Jebus, God hates an open mind, Amen.

HG, at least the left thinks. Repubs stopped thinking 30 years ago.

So no honesty, just ad hominems.

HG – what do voter IDs, contraceptive rights and research have to do with the budget?

you really want to talk about honesty?

@ Chayanov

You are absolutely correct sir.. The elected Republicans don’t know how to think.. There is a right wing front group called “ALEC” that writes ALL of the republican legislation.. ALEC has corporate money funneled into it’s organization and they have just about every republican in their pocket…When you look at Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio it’s absolutely OBVIOUS that republicans don’t give a sh1t about their states and they sure as Hell don’t legislate with their states interest in mind..

Tax cut’s for Billionaires and Wall Street Bankers, Destroy our public treasury and use it as a wedge to destroy labor and “Privatize” everything that civilization depends on as a common use.. And what the Hell ?? Throw in the Religious Nut Balls because there a bunch of dumb sheep that continuously vote for the Republikan Satan Party…

Thomas,

“MN taxpayers have paid $17 million for elective abortions since the MN Supreme Court forced the state to fundi abortions,”

HG,

Even IF we take your numbers seriously, $17,000,000 (spread over many years) vs $5,000,000,000 budget shortfall over the next biennium is a relative drop in the ocean. Thats 17 million vs 5 billion. With a B. Billion. And the MCCL, which is probably where you are getting your numbers from, sponsors ‘life clinics’ that give women fake ultrasounds and tell women that if they have an abortion they have a 90 percent chance of needing a double mastectomy within 5 years.
Republicans campaigned on Jobs and the Economy, and all they accomplished were to pass Anti-Gay Marriage, Voter ID, anti-stem cell and anti-science wedge issue ballot initiatives, and are now attempting to legislate via shutdown. Give me a break.

As a liberal, I personally don’t see why we need to pay for everyone’s abortions.

That aside, the Republicans have a lot of nerve holding the people hostage for $17 million out of a whopping $5 billion gap.

They are not as morally superior as they make themselves out to be. They need to get off their desperate soapbox and save it for a non-crisis.

What if this is about limos, party buses, cocaine, and drink? Not about upholding God’s word and loving their neighbor and honoring elders who need food, living spaces, healthcare and buses to get around.

So they let people die when they are old and feeble, rather than when they are fetal. I get it!

You don’t pay for everyone’s abortions. Your tax dollars are used to pay for abortions for refugee populations. Some insurance companies cover it, others do not. Many people pay for their own, including women from Iowa and the Dakotas, and Kansas and Wisconsin who are not MN residents. PPFA also solicits donations to help cover the shortfall.

And you know what costs more than abortions? Children in single-parent homes who need more state resources because mom or dad need help making ends meet. You know what costs LESS than abortions? Condoms, family planning, and comprehensive sex-ed.

“You know what costs LESS than abortions? Condoms, family planning, and comprehensive sex-ed.”

THIS. How many times do we have to point out the right-wing hypocrisy? Provide free contraception, teach comprehensive sex ed, and the number of abortions will plummet. Not to mention, for all their claims to be “pro life” they consistently vote to cut money for prenatal care, as well as providing any services to low income and disadvantaged families.

There is no such thing as free products.

The Supreme Court ruled that Minnesota must cover the cost of abortions in 1995. That was 16 years ago (take off your shoes, if you need to do the math, HG). In other words, a lttle over $1 million per year, or not even close to closing the budget gap.

HG, please tell the people who feed you your talking points to come up with better ones next time.

Randy,

1 million here, a million there, pretty soon your talking real money. Nobody is claiming the abortion funds would close the budget gap. It doesn’t take much to get you to overreact.

HG, you have the most f#cked up logic of any person I ever encountered.

Here’s a suggestion…any proposed tax increase shall be applied equally to ALL taxpayers. Can you argue against equal treatment?

Arguing about abortion funding in this context is like arguing about the music the fiddler is playing while Rome sizzles away

After years of tax cuts for the wealthy, it would be silly to say let’s increase everyone the same percentage . Taxation on ability to pay gave us the highly progressive income tax and that was whittled away by the fools on the left and the tools on the right.
Look at the history of federal income tax rates and see what made this country great. Cuts in upkeep to our infrastructure will lead to more explosions and bridge collapse.