Bradlee Dean: Kurt Zellers ‘is a liar’
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Controversial preacher Bradlee Dean continues to claim that House Speaker Kurt Zellers asked to be on Dean’s show, Sons of Liberty, immediately preceding Dean’s infamous prayer at the opening of a Minnesota House session, according to an interview Dean did with City Pages reporter Andy Mannix. Zellers has denied that he ever asked to be on the show. Dean also said that Rep. Ernie Leidiger, R-Mayer, who invited Dean to give the prayer but later stated he didn’t know much about Dean, was “behind” Dean’s ministry before he was against it.
“Speaker Zellers did not ask to be on Bradlee Dean’s radio show,” Jodi Boyne, director of public affairs for the Minnesota House Republican Caucus, told the Minnesota Independent last month.
But that’s not the story that Bradlee Dean told Mannix.
CP: The last thing I want to ask you about is this whole debacle with the prayer. I read a week or two ago that you had said you actually had talked to Zellers before.
BDS: Nicole [another ministry member] had ran into Zellers, and he had said to her, “I know you guys.” And he gave his card and said, “Get a hold of so and so, I’d like to be on your radio show.”
I think what happened is he just felt a little heat and he bowed. That’s what he did.
CP: He made it seem like he had no idea who you were.
BDS: He’s a liar, he straight up lied.
Dean has generated controversy in Minnesota politics for his tied to Republicans, including Rep. Michele Bachmann, and his statements about gays and lesbians being criminals and pedophiles.
Dean also said that Leidiger approached Dean at his “My War” documentary, not a school event, as Liediger told the press immediately after the prayer.
CP: Was it [Ernie] Leidiger that invited you?
BDS: He came to one of our events, and sat there and watched the whole debunking.
He knows what was done, he sat and watched the whole program. I think what happened was that it was brand new. Listen, when the media first comes down on you, it’s not a secure feeling.
We went through it, but the bottom line is I just don’t think he was really for it. But what was interesting is, when we did the event, he was there and he was the first one to stand up, “We need to get behind these guys. We need to stand up.”
CP: So Leidiger was at an event?
BDS: He’s seen the whole thing.
One of the documentary premieres. Which, by the way, is being attacked from, again, the homosexual communities without even seeing the documentary.
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Comment posted July 20, 2011 @ 1:21 pm
I’ve seen it. It is NOT a documentary in any sense of the word. It is fiction and aimed at children. You are NOT dealing with anything scientific or credible citing the PEER-REPUDIATED Paul Cameron.
Paul Drummond Cameron was born November 9, 1939, in Pittsburgh (PA).
He received his BA from Los Angeles Pacific College in 1961; his MA from California State University, Los Angeles, in 1962; and his PhD from the University of Colorado in 1966. His dissertation was titled Age as a determinant of differences in non-intellective psychological functioning.1
He was affiliated with various colleges and universities until 1980. They include Wayne State University (1967-68), University of Louisville (1970-73), Fuller Graduate School of Psychology [part of the Fuller Theological Seminary] (1976-79), and the University of Nebraska (1979-80).
On his curriculum vitae, he describes himself as a “Researcher/Clinician.” According to the web site of the Nebraska Department of HHS Regulation and Licensure, his license as a Psychologist has been “inactive” since 1995.
He is chairman of the Family Research Institute, PO Box 62640, Colorado Springs, CO, 80962-2640. Telephone: (303) 681-3113. Fax: (303) 681-3427. E-mail: pdcameron@juno.com
In the mid-1980s, the gay press labeled Paul Cameron “the most dangerous antigay voice in the United States today.”2,3,4 Here are some important facts about him.
On December 2, 1983, the American Psychological Association sent Paul Cameron a letter informing him that he had been dropped from membership. Early in 1984, all members of the American Psychological Association received official written notice that “Paul Cameron (Nebraska) was dropped from membership for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists” by the APA Board of Directors.5 Cameron has posted an elaborate argument about his expulsion from APA on his website, claiming that he resigned from APA before he was dropped from membership. Like most organizations, however, APA does not allow a member to resign when they are being investigated. And even if Cameron’s claims were accepted as true, it would be remarkable that the largest professional organization of psychologists in the United States (and other professional associations, as noted below) went to such lengths to disassociate itself from one individual.
At its membership meeting on October 19, 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association adopted a resolution stating that it “formally disassociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality.”6
In 1985, the American Sociological Association (ASA) adopted a resolution which asserted that “Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism” and noted that “Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research.”7 The resolution formally charged an ASA committee with the task of “critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron.”
At its August, 1986 meeting, the ASA officially accepted the committee’s report and passed the following resolution:
The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research. Information on this action and a copy of the report by the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, “The Paul Cameron Case,” is to be published in Footnotes, and be sent to the officers of all regional and state sociological associations and to the Canadian Sociological Association with a request that they alert their members to Cameron’s frequent lecture and media appearances.”8
In August, 1996, the Canadian Psychological Association adopted the following policy statement:
The Canadian Psychological Association takes the position that Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism and thus, it formally disassociates itself from the representation and interpretations of scientific literature in his writings and public statements on sexuality.
Cameron’s credibility was also questioned outside of academia. In his written opinion in Baker v. Wade (1985), Judge Buchmeyer of the U.S. District Court of Dallas referred to “Cameron’s sworn statement that ‘homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals,’” and concluded that “Dr. Paul Cameron…has himself made misrepresentations to this Court” and that “There has been no fraud or misrepresentations except by Dr. Cameron” (p.536).9
Footnotes
1Biographical information obtained from various sources, including Cameron’s curriculum vitae, Who’s Who in the West, 26th Edition, 25th Edition; Who’s Who in America, 52nd Edition, 51st Edition, 50th Edition. (return to text)
2Walter, D. (1985, October 29). Paul Cameron. The Advocate, pp. 28-33. (return to text)
3Fettner, A.G. (1985, September 23). The evil that men do. New York Native, pp. 23-24. (return to text)
4Pietrzyk, M.E. (1994, October 3). Queer science: Paul Cameron, professional sham. The New Republic, pp. 10-12. (return to text)
5Notice: Persons dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association. (1984). Internal communication from APA to all members. (return to text)
6The full NPA resolution read as follows:
The science and profession of psychology in Nebraska as represented by the Nebraska Psychological Association, formally dissociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality. Further, the Nebraska Psychological Association would like it known that Dr. Cameron is not a member of the Association. Dr. Cameron was recently dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists.
[Nebraska Psychological Association. (1984, October 19). Resolution. Minutes of the Nebraska Psychological Association. Omaha, Nebraska: Author.] (return to text)
7A copy of the full ASA resolution in Acrobat PDF format can be downloaded. It read as follows:
WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron, a psychologist, was dropped from membership in The American Psychological Association for violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists;
WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has been presented in the media as a sociologist;
WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism;
WHEREAS Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research;
WHEREAS the American Sociological Association is on record as opposing oppressive actions against lesbians and gay men and affirming its commitment to their civil rights;
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: THAT the Association reaffirms its opposition to efforts to undermine the civil rights of lesbians and gay men through the distortion of sociological concepts and the falsifying of sociological research; and
THAT the Association articulates this opposition by charging the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology with the task of critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron.
[Sociology group criticizes work of Paul Cameron. (1985, September 10). Lincoln (NE) Star.] (return to text)
8 The ASA Task Force findings were described in ASA Footnotes (January, 1987, p. 4). The final resolution and the committee report were published in ASA Footnotes (February, 1987, page 14). Available from the American Sociological Association, Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, 1722 N Street, NW, Washington DC 20036. (202) 833-3410. (return to text)
9On page 536 of his opinion, Judge Buchmeyer noted the following examples of misrepresentations by Cameron to the Court:
“(i) his sworn statement that “homosexuals are approximately 43 times more apt to commit crimes than is the general population” is a total distortion of the Kinsey data upon which he relies – which, as is obvious to anyone who reads the report, concerns data from a non-representative sample of delinquent homosexuals (and Dr. Cameron compares this group to college and non-college heterosexuals);
(ii) his sworn statement that “homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals” is based upon the same distorted data – and, the Court notes, is directly contrary to other evidence presented at trial besides the testimony of Dr. Simon and Dr. Marmour. (553 F. Supp. 1121 at 1130 n.18.)”
[Baker v. Wade, 106 Federal Rules Decisions 526 (N.D. Texas, 1985).]
Bradlee Dean sure isn’t a resource for the truth.
Comment posted July 20, 2011 @ 1:41 pm
Psychologist Paul Cameron has used his own studies to claim that homosexuals threaten public health, social order, and the well-being of children. His conclusions are generally at odds with other published research, and objective indices show that his work has had no apparent impact on scientific research on sexual orientation.
Although Cameron has been criticized in the popular press, extensive scientific critiques of his group’s research have not been widely available. Those that have been published have been brief or appeared in obscure journals. This inattention by the scientific community is perhaps not surprising, given the poor quality of the Cameron group’s data and the low prestige of the journals in which they have published. Most scientists have simply ignored the Cameron studies.
Lacking training in research methods and statistics, however, nonscientists may not be equipped to subject the Cameron group’s results to the rigorous scrutiny that they warrant. Consequently, they may mistakenly assume that the Cameron group’s papers are basically sound because they included lengthy bibliographies, reported many statistics, and were published in academic journals. Some members of the lay public may not understand that the mere presence of bibliographic references does not guarantee an assertion’s accuracy or validity, that statistics can easily be generated from faulty data, and that academic journals vary widely in their quality and their criteria for accepting papers for publication.
This section of the site includes a critical review of the principal source of data for the Cameron group’s publications, their 1983-84 surveys conducted in eight US municipalities. Six serious errors are identified in the Cameron group’s sampling techniques, survey methodology, and interpretation of results. The presence of even one of these errors would be sufficient to cast serious doubts on the legitimacy of any study’s results. In combination, they make the data virtually meaningless.
In addition, a brief note describes the fundamental methodological flaw in the Cameron group’s study of obituaries in the gay press.
And data from objective indicators are reported to show that the Cameron group’s studies have had no discernible impact on scientific research. Their papers have been published in journals with extremely low levels of professional prestige and scientific impact, and have been cited in only a handful of other academic articles, most of which criticized their methodology.
Information is also provided about censures of Paul Cameron by various professional associations, along with links to other relevant sites.
Paul Cameron: Introduction
The Cameron group’s survey studies
The Cameron group’s “gay obituary” study
The Cameron group’s publication outlets
Fact sheet about Paul Cameron
Paul Cameron’s own web site, with newsletters, reports, pamphlets, and audiotapes.
Online copies of some Cameron pamphlets:
Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do
Child Molestation and Homosexuality
What Causes Homosexual Desire and Can It Be Changed?
Same Sex Marriage: Till Death Do Us Part?
The Psychology of Homosexuality
Violence and Homosexuality
Born What Way?
Jim Burroway at Box Turtle Bulletin monitors Paul Cameron’s activities. Relevant posts include:
Paul Cameron’s World
Eastern Psychological Association’s Statement on Paul Cameron
Paul Cameron Denounced in Anthropology News
EJSSSB.org: Exposing Junk Science about Same-Sex Behavior.
Links to other pages about Paul Cameron
Return to Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron_survey.html
http://www.beyondhomophobia.com/blog/category/junk-science/
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron.html
Comment posted July 20, 2011 @ 1:53 pm
Dean a liar or Zellers a liar? Hmmmmmm…….
How about we split the difference and declare both to be liars. I could live with that. Seems reasonable.
Comment posted July 20, 2011 @ 2:45 pm
The question that begs itself in the Zellers expungement of the House Record is why Dean was allowed to commence with the prayer in the absence of a quorum?
Zeller’s claimed the expungement was justified by absence of a quorum.
Syllogism leads me to the conclusion that Representative Zeller’s is indeed a liar. As such this is cause for recall by the electorate of his district.
Jeff Wilfahrt, Rosemount, MN
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