In an interview with Hugh Hewitt at the Republican Governor’s Association convention in San Diego on Friday, Gov. Tim Pawlenty said that Attorney General Eric Holder should resign because he wasn’t able to prosecute a Guantanamo Bay prisoner effectively in civil court.

Ahmed Ghailani was acquitted of more than 280 charges earlier this week in connection to the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa. Ghailani was convicted of conspiracy and faces a sentence of 20 years to life.

Pawlenty called on Holder to resign because he doesn’t feel taking cases to federal civilian court is effective for trying those accused of terrorism.

Here are Pawlenty’s remarks:

TP: Well, I think we should all pause and make sure we understand the lessons of that. And I think President Obama made, and the Justice Department made a huge mistake in transferring that case to the civilian court. You have somebody who amongst other things, Hugh, was taken down in a ten hour firefight in Pakistan, in an al Qaeda safe house, allegedly. And you had somebody who clearly tried to kill and injure dozens or more people. And the only conviction they get out of him is relating to destruction of property. Now there’s a lot of underneath the hood of that, but the point is there is a major disconnect between that conclusion and his behavior. And the big problem in that regard was bringing that into civilian court, because of the way they couldn’t consider the other things that are under the hood.

HH: Should that end? Should that practice end?

TP: Absolutely. Yes.

HH: Okay, and should Eric Holder resign?

TP: You know, I think Eric Holder and the Justice Department made a fundamental mistake, and they put the country, almost put the country at risk, and may still have done it if they continue down this path. And I don’t think you can just stay in that position and have those kinds of outcomes.

HH: That’s a yes.

TP: Yes.

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Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s visit to an American Indian jobs center in Minneapolis today carries special (if little-known) resonance with either end of her political career, from the time she arrived in what later became her California congressional district to the recent rightwing taunts she has taken over terrorism.

Pelosi will tour the American Indian Opportunities Industrialization Center (AIOIC) with Mayor R.T. Rybak and U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison (whose benefit event she’ll also attend). The AIOIC is using more than $100,000 in federal economic-stimulus funds for a youth employment program.

The AIOIC was founded by the Minneapolis-based American Indian Movement (AIM) in 1979. The early years after AIM’s own founding in 1968 had been marked by a series of occupations sparked by a 1969 takeover at Alcatraz Island, site of an abandoned prison in San Francisco Bay.

That was the same year Pelosi moved to San Francisco with her husband Paul, a native of the city. His brother, Ronald Pelosi, had just joined the San Francisco Board of Supervisors after presiding over the city’s planning commission.

The city approved a plan for the private redevelopment of Alcatraz, which had stood vacant for five years since the closing of the federal prison. Within weeks, American Indian students began an occupation of the island, demanding a variety of programs from the federal government as payback for broken treaties.

The occupation of Alcatraz lasted 18 months, but its legacy lasted longer. It inspired nearly 75 other occupations, including the Twin Cities Naval Air Station in 1971 and, most famously, Wounded Knee in South Dakota in 1973.

Pelosi’s name has been linked to Alcatraz since January, when President Obama pledged to close the United States’ detention facility for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Conservatives who opposed the closing of Guantanamo saw an opening to jab the speaker and began proposing that prisoners could be transferred from Guantanamo to Alcatraz. Pelosi countered that Alcatraz is now a national park (ABC video), but the Republican razzing that her resistance to the idea represents NIMBYism continues unabated.

Pelosi made another trip to Minnesota last fall to help the campaign of a man some might call Indian: Ashwin Madia, DFL candidate in the state’s Third Congressional District, whose parents emigrated from India.

Dick Durbin is the senior senator from Illinois and is currently seeking a third term in office. He’s being challenged by Republican Steve Sauerberg, but polls have consistently shown the incumbent with a commanding lead. Durbin was an early supporter of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and introduced him at the Democratic National Convention in August. Today he was in Minnesota stumping for his fellow Illinois legislator. I spoke to him by phone. What follows is an edited transcript of our conversation.

Minnesota Independent: You are in the midst of a re-election campaign, so what are you doing in Minnesota?

Dick Durbin: I try to sneak away a few days a week to help Barack Obama. I was part of the group that talked him into this race and I’ve kept my word that I’d stand by him all the way. I’m trying to have that dual responsibility of running for re-election in my state and helping him win.

MI: What’s your big picture assessment of the presidential race at this time?

DD: I think there was a real shift in this election campaign just within the last two or three weeks. When the economy became such a dominant issue, it really pushed aside a lot of the minor and superficial things that had been talked about. We spent two or three days debating what Barack meant when he said “lipstick on a pig.” I don’t think the American people would tolerate that conversation in light of the serious economic problems we face today.

MI: In recent days we’ve heard a lot about Bill Ayers from the McCain campaign. What do you make of those attacks?

DD: It doesn’t have legs. What it boils down to is Bill Ayers’ wrongdoing occurred when Barack Obama was 8 years old and was a kid in grade school. To any way associate Barack with Ayers, besides a few meetings on a charitable board, is an exaggeration. As Rahm Emmanuel said recently, if you’re going to hold Barack Obama accountable for what happened when he was 8 years old, you should hold Sen. McCain accountable for what happened when he was 58 years old, which happens to be the Keating Five scandal.

MI: You’ve had similar attacks waged against you by your Republican opponent, accusing you of actions that “embolden the enemy.” What impact do you think those have had on your own contest?

DD: I was kind of surprised that my opponent went to that level, first saying that he thought I was unpatriotic and then saying that somehow I endangered our troops. We had a debate over it last night in Galesburg. I said to him, I just don’t think this is gonna work, doctor. I don’t think the American people are going to buy this. They’re more interested in what we’re going to do to end this war and bring our troops home safely. They’re more interested in what we’re going to do to get this economy back on its feet. This kind of name calling I think is for the bottom feeders of the American political scene.

MI: You’ve been a frequent critic of Guantanamo Bay. We’ve heard very little about that facility in the presidential campaign. If Obama is elected, what do you expect to happen with Guantanamo Bay?

DD: I expect Guantanamo to be closed. I think Barack Obama understands, as I do, that it has become a blight on America’s image around the world. We need to bring those prisoners to justice if they have committed crimes or in any way endanger our nation. We need to be honest. If we’ve held them for years without any evidence of wrongdoing they need to be released.

MI: Do you have in mind a time frame for how long it would take to shut that facility down after Jan. 20?

DD: I don’t have one. But I can tell you that even President Bush was talking about closing Guantanamo over a year ago. I think it’s long overdue.

MI: You supported the $700 billion bailout package. Why?

DD: I’m afraid it was the only game in town. I hate to say that. This mess that we have with our economy was a creation of the deregulators, high priest Phil Gramm and his acolyte John McCain. This notion that if we just stepped aside dynamic capitalism would create wealth and growth — well, we’re paying our comeuppance, and sadly a lot of people are suffering. People have lost their savings. Investors are getting the bad news on a regular basis. We’ve got to have central regulation. We can’t exempt any portion of our economy from the kind of oversight that protects basic American families.

MI: This bailout package was intended to calm the financial sector. Clearly that has not happened. Why do you think that is?

DD: We hoped that the passage of the legislation would be a confidence builder. It didn’t work. Perhaps when we start actually buying these illiquid assets and strengthening some of the institutions it will work. But there’s a chance as well that it won’t work at all. Our alternative was to do nothing. I just couldn’t bring myself to reach that point. Neither could Barack.

MI: Race — what role do you think it is playing in this election so far?

DD: It would be naive to believe that race is not a factor in this election. It is. There will be people who will vote based on race. I’ve run into some who’ve told me in Chicago that they’re good strong Democrats, but they’re still struggling with the notion of voting for a black man. They’ve been candid with me about it. The thing that I think has happened is over time people have come to know Barack Obama. They’ve watched and seen him during the course of his campaign. It’s been 16 years or so since he published his autobiography. Obama’s story is out there in detail for America. There is still a chasm between races in our country. Most of us don’t feel that we completely understand black families because we don’t associate as much as we should. But I think at the end of this campaign there will be a much smaller percentage of voters that are troubled by that. I think that Barack is going to overcome it.