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		<title>Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight: Franken &#8216;may be prohibitive favorite&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nate Silver, the fivethirtyeight.com political wunderkind whose prognosticating acumen landed him on the cover of today&#8217;s New York Times business section, breaks down the probabilities of who will survive the ongoing vote count in Minnesota&#8217;s U.S. Senate race this morning (hat tip x 3: Braublog). His conclusion:
If, over the long run, we expect Franken to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/nate-silver.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-17121" title="nate-silver" src="http://minnesotaindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/nate-silver-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>Nate Silver, the <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/">fivethirtyeight.com</a> political wunderkind whose prognosticating acumen landed him on the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/business/media/10silver.html">cover of today&#8217;s New York Times business section</a>, breaks down the probabilities of <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/frankens-odds-of-winning-recount-may-be.html">who will survive the ongoing vote count in Minnesota&#8217;s U.S. Senate race</a> this morning (hat tip x 3: <a href="http://www.minnpost.com/braublog/">Braublog</a>). His conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>If, over the long run, we expect Franken to win 51% of corrected ballots, his odds of winning the recount may be quite strong &#8212; in fact, he may be the prohibitive favorite depending on the number of recounted ballots.</p></blockquote>
<p>UPDATE: Silver has already <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/more-minnesota-madness.html">revisited this in a new post</a>. His adjusted take on the situation: </p>
<blockquote><p>I hesitate to say this, but I think the evidence points on balance toward Franken being a <span>slight</span> favorite to win the recount.</p></blockquote>
<p>UPDATE: In yet another installment, Silver says what we already knew: <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/minnesota-recount-number-of.html">It&#8217;s a tie.</a> </p>
<blockquote><p> It is very, very close. </p></blockquote>
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<p>A lot rides on the margin between Franken and Coleman staying small when votes are certified today, and on the belief, buttressed by exit polls, that <a href="http://minnesotaindependent.com/16989/ap-undervote-ballots-could-tip-recount-to-franken">under-counted ballots</a> will break for Franken. Yet when he appeared Nov. 3 on MSNBC&#8217;s &#8220;Countdown with Keith Olbermann,&#8221; Silver <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me5VDM1CrCk">didn&#8217;t put much stock in exit poll data:</a></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Olbermann:</strong> Nate, when the exit polls leak out tomorrow &#8230; is there anything that you actually want to look at, anything that&#8217;s an actual valid indicator, or should you just throw them out as they come in?<br />
<strong>Silver:</strong> No, totally throw them out. These things are not anything they&#8217;re cracked up to be. They&#8217;ve had a Democratic lean for years and years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Silver may have been dissing exit polls&#8217; utility in predicting election results, however, not in conducting after-the-fact demographic analysis.</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s the kind of in-depth analysis Silver lavished only on select candidate preference polls during the heat of the campaign season. Now that it&#8217;s all over but the counting in a few places like Minnesota, the former baseball stats geek is apparently able and willing to turn his full mental powers on an individual non-presidential race to produce an at-length interpretation that leaves his readers&#8217; heads spinning. &#8220;Swear to God, Nate, you&#8217;ve broken my brain with this one,&#8221; writes one. &#8221;My goodness Nate &#8212; do you ever sleep? You need to get out more,&#8221; advises another. Adds someone named Bob: &#8220;Your sadistical analsis [sic] leaves me stunned.&#8221;</p>
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